Thermometer Accuracy
The ECPin/Stake probes contain one temperature sensor down near the tip of the probe.
Since, unlike the MEATER probes, the ECPin app allows you to set the temperature
at which to alarm for a high temperature, we were able to test the accuracy of the probes
using the good old boiling water technique. Knowing our elevation and the current
barometric pressue, we were able to use our Boiling Point Calculator
to determine that at the time of the test, the boiling point of water was 211.4°F.
Here's how the probes performed.
As you can see, all the probes produced readings that were within the advertised 1.8°F
error:
Actual Boiling Point | 211.4°F |
ECPin Black Probe | 210°F |
ECPin White Probe | 212°F |
Maverick Probe | 210°F |
Charging Times and "Battery" Life
Well, of course there is no battery in these probes. As we have explained, they are powered
by supercapacitors. So, how long do they take to charge and how long do they last? Let's take
a look.
First, how long does it take to charge these probes? They are advertised as charging in two minutes. Compare this to two hours or more to charge probes that have a lithium battery in them. Can they really charge that fast? Well, to charge a probe, you just insert it into the charger, connect the mini-USB cable to a USB outlet and then watch the flashing LED. It will flash while the probe is charging and turn off when the probe is done charging. Here's how they did:
ECPin Black Probe | 35 seconds |
ECPin White Probe | 39 seconds |
Maverick Probe | 39 seconds |
Next, how long will the supercapacitor last when you are using a probe? The web site for the ECPin probes says 6 hours in standby and 4 hours in use. Actually, it is a bit more complicated than that. It depends on whether you are using the probes at lower or higher temperatures. Per the manufacturer, the supercapacitor will discharge faster at 212°F than at 154°F. In order to demonstrate this, we ran all of our probes at room temperature and then popped them into an oven that ran between 127 and 210°F. Here are the results we obtained:
Probes at Room Temperature |
Probes at Cooking Temperature |
|
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ECPin Black Probe | 6:30 | 2:53 |
ECPin White Probe | 7:15 | 3:25 |
Maverick Probe | 6:46 | 2:51 |
So as you can see, early in a cook the supercapacitor discharges at a rate that would get you over 6 hours of runtime, but as the probes heat up, the supercapacitor discharges at a higher rate that would only get you about 3 hours of operation. Thus, over the course of an entire cook, you should expect to get somewhere around 4 hours, as ECTherm advertises.
However, this obviously poses a problem for overnight cooking. Once your meat gets up to around 150°F, you can only expect 3 hours of operation which means opening the cooker every 3 hours to recharge your probe.
Connectivity Methods
Both the ECPin probes and the Maverick Stake probes can connect to the app using Bluetooth:
Bluetooth: We'll assume everyone knows what Bluetooth wireless communication is. The ECPin and Maverick probes use Bluetooth LE, also known as Bluetooth Smart. Compared to Classic Bluetooth, Bluetooth Smart is intended to provide considerably reduced power consumption and cost while maintaining a similar communication range. Advantages include:As of this writing, the ECPin app also has the ability to connect using two other methods, WiFi and Hot Spot. (The Maverick Stake app supports only the direct Bluetooth connection from the probe to the smart device. We don't know at this time if there are plans to upgrade the Maverick app.)In addition, the ECPin and Maverick probes use Beacon technology which allows them to establish a connection with a smart device without the user having to go through the pairing process. All communications with the ECPin and Maverick Probes begin with Bluetooth. You must connect a smart device running the ECPin or Maverick app to the probe via Bluetooth, and this smart device must remain within Bluetooth range of the probe in order to access the data from the probe.
- Low power requirements, operating for "months or years" on a button cell
- Small size and low cost
- Compatibility with a large installed base of mobile phones, tablets and computers
Regardless of which method you use, WiFi or Hotspot, the way you set up to use a second smart device is the same.WiFi: This method allows one smart device to connect to the ECPin probe via Bluetooth, but then allows a second smart device to connect to the first via a local wifi network. Both smart devices must be running the ECPin app and must be connected to the same local wifi network.
Hotspot: This method also allows one smart device to connect to the ECPin probe via Bluetooth, but instead of using your local network to connect to the second smart device, you activate your hotspot on your smart device, and then connect the second smart device to the hotspot. Thus, you can monitor the ECPin probe remotely on the second smart device as long as it remains connected to your first device's hotspot. Again, the ECPin app must be running on both smart devices.
Tap the WiFi symbol at the bottom of any screen to be taken to the ECPin Connect screen. Here you can view your two options to connect your two smart devices, WiFi or Hotspot. Tap the ">" at the top of the screen to continue. |
On the smart device that you will leave near your cooker, select the Repeater option. |
On the smart device you will keep with you, select the Monitor option. |
You should see the monitor smart device briefly display a message about scanning for the repeater, and then you should be able to use your smart device designated as the monitor to monitor the probe temperatures from beyond Bluetooth distances. You can tell which smart device is repeater and which is the monitor by looking at the probe data on the home screen. You will see a WiFi icon next to the radio beacon icon, and it will either have a small "R" for repeater, or "M" for monitor next to it.
The WiFi icon with an "R" beside it indicates this smart device is the repeater. |
The WiFi icon with an "M" beside it indicates this smart device is the monitor. |
So, once you have this set up, you can use the second smart device to monitor your probes as long as it stays within range of your local WiFi network or the first smart device's hot spot. Also, we should point out that you should set up your cooks on the smart device that you have designated as the monitor.
Once you are monitoring remotely, if you kill the app on either the repeater or the monitor, when you start the app back up, you will need to go into the WiFi setup again and select the appropriate role for your smart device. In addition, if you switch to another app on the monitor smart device, when you come back to the ECPin app, you may get a popup saying "Disconnected from ECPIN repeater" asking you to reconnect. Just tap "Re-connect" and you will be monitoring again. This may also happen if you switch to another app on the repeater smart device. The monitor smart device may give you the disconnect popup. You'll need to make the ECPin app active on the repeater and then you can reconnect on the monitor.
Problems We Encountered
The only problem that we encountered, if you can call it that, was occasionally we received a disconnect message
when clearly the probe and smart device were only 2 feet away from each other. However, this only happened a few times and it
always resolved itself within a few seconds.
Compared to the MEATER and MeatStick Probes
In the following table we compare some of the more important features of the ECPin, Stake,
MEATER and MeatStick probes. We included the original MEATER probe as it most closely
aligns with the ECPin/Stake probes. Likewise, we include the "All New" MeatStick probe
which is the current version of the MeatStick probe that lines up with the ECPin/Stake probes.
ECPin | Stake | MEATER | MeatStick | |
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Communication Type | Bluetooth | Bluetooth | Bluetooth | Bluetooth |
Maximum Line of Sight Range |
140 feet | 140 feet | 285 feet | 245 feet |
Temperature Sensors | Meat only | Meat only | Meat and ambient | Meat and ambient |
Meat Done Prediction | Coming Soon | No | Yes | Yes |
Resting Time Prediction | Coming Soon | No | Yes | Yes |
Meat Probe Limit | 212°F/100°C | 212°F/100°C | 212°F/100°C | 212°F/100°C |
Probe Temperature Limit | 572°F/300°C | 572°F/300°C | 527°F/275°C | 572°F/300°C |
Probe Water Proof? | Yes | Yes | Water resistant | Yes |
Probe Dishwasher Safe? | Yes | Yes | No | Yes |
Probe sous vide safe? | Yes | Yes | If not submerged | Yes |
Probe Recharge Cycles | 1,000,000 | 1,000,000 | 1,000 | 1,000 |
Meat Probe Accuracy | 1.8°F/1.0°C | 1.8°F/1.0°C | Not Stated | Not Stated |
Probe Power Source | Supercapacitor | Supercapacitor | Lithium Battery | Lithium Battery |
Probe Operating Time | 4 to 7 hours | 4 to 7 hours | 24-72 hours | 24 hours |
Probe Charging Time | < 40 seconds | < 40 seconds | 2+ hours | 4 hours |
Charger Power | micro-USB cable | micro-USB cable | AAA battery | 2-AAA batteries |
Charger Construction | Plastic | Plastic | Bamboo block | Plastic |
WiFi Option | Yes, with second phone | No | Yes, with second phone | Yes, with second phone |
Max Probes Supported | 8 | 8 | 4 with one phone, 8 with two |
8 |
Types of Meat Supported | 5 (Beef, Pork, Lamb, Poultry, Fish) |
6 (Beef, Veal, Lamb, Pork, Chicken, Turkey) |
5 (Beef, Pork, Lamb, Poultry, Fish) |
5 (Beef, Pork, Lamb, Poultry, Fish) |
Cuts of Meat Supported | 24 | 30 | 32 | 38 |
Custom Cook | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
Price | $69.95 Europe and Asia |
$79.95 US and Canada |
$69.95 | $69.95 |
Availability
The ECPin probe is available outside of the US and Canada at the ECTherm web site. You can buy
either a single probe with charger or a dual pack that contains two probes and a charger.
For customers in the US and Canada, you can purchase the Maverick Stake at their web site and on Amazon:
Conclusions
When looking at any Bluetooth truly wireless meat thermometer, you have to compare it to the
obvious alternatives, MEATER and MeatStick. While the ECPin and Maverick Stake probes are
missing some useful functions (however, see the next paragraph) and have a relatively short operating time on a single charge,
you have to consider that they have something that no other probes have, virtually instant
charging. They are essentially always ready to go with just a one minute charge time.
If you want
a simple meat thermometer that doesn't require hours of charging, and you can do with a
four hour run time, you should take a look at these probes.
As for the missing features, ECTherm is about to release the next version of their ECPin Pro app. This next update addresses some of these missing functions and adds a few additional functions.
ECTherm by Manford Development Limited Flat 1001, Floor 10, Building 19W Hong Kong Science Park Shatin, N.T. Hong Kong
Email: enquiry@ecthrm.com |
Maverick Industries Edison, New Jersey 08837
Customer Support Phone: 800-526-0954
Email: help@maverickthermometers.com |
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